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LCF-AT

Hi,

so does someone of you know some way's how to reduce the CPU utilization of the flash plugin of your browser?So you know it maybe from the past that I have always trouble to watch some flash videos on the net [playing not liquid / stop & go etc].Now I just did open the taskmanager and checked my FireFox durring the video was playing and I saw the CPU utilization was jumping from 93 - 99%!!!!If I pause the video then the CPU utilization was again very low.So why does the flash use the whole CPU and do you know some special ways to reduce it maybe etc?So it does not play any role which browser I use so I get the same problems as in FF.So if you know some hints & tricks etc which I can try then you can tell me. :) Would be nice of course.

Next problem: Ok,so now I wanna know how I can do some kind of system resources refresh in realtime.Do you know what I mean?No?

Exsample: If I start any exe file which used a LOT of VirtualMemory like ExeProtector [section has a VS of very much like 03000000 or more] and if I run it then it will eat the whole RAM of my system and does slow down my system etc.So if I now close the target again then my system keeps still slow for a longer time so that I can do not much and have to wait ultra long etc.Now the questions is why?So if I close the target then the system should also free my system RAM again correctly or?So do you know what the problem is in that case or do you know some solutions to prevent or fix this problem?Also the same if I watch some video in FF.The system getting slower and slower and the browser too also if I close the browser and restart it.So the only thing what I can do is to restart the system but thats stupid.So now I am looking for some helpfully infos or tools or vbs scripts or whatever what can help to bring my system the normal turbo back etc you know what I mean.Yes I tried also some free Ram tools like memoptimizer but they don't help so the system keeps still slowly.So what can I do now?Are there maybe a pagefile.sys trouble or something?Maybe you also know something about this and what I can do or tune etc.

PS: Did someone already try to debug the flash plugin?Maybe there is a bad coding issue that it alloct tones of sizes / loops etc.Other questions is why is there not alternativ flash plugin to get of any other company?

Thanks for reading and for your help

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mrexodia

Hehe,


 


consider upgrading your pc or add more virtual ram (slow). flash eats resources, but with a multi-core pc this shouldn't be a problem.


 


Greetings


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kao

Get a better computer. Seriously.

 

Debugging Flash plugin might be a fun task for an evening but in the end - it's just not worth it. Just like it's not worth sticking with Acrobat Reader 6 or Office 2003 and then complain that some files won't open.

Hardware is cheap these days, your time isn't.

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Teddy Rogers

Have you not upgraded yet? I should mail you an old quad core system I have lying around!


 


Ted.


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Nacho_dj

Did you try increasing the pagefile.sys size to try to minimize this troubles? That is, assigning more size to virtual memory...


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deepzero

That PC upgrade is long overdue.


 


Although i used to have the flash issue on my dualcore, too. (havnt seen it in a while now, but i dont watch a lot of flash movies).


As for RAM usage, i'm guessing it's because you just dont have enough and ECs overuse pushes more important processes into the pagefile.


 


Just yesterday i saw a fairly OK PC for 250€. Go for it.


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LCF-AT

Hi guys,

thanks for your answers so far. :)

No sorry so I did still not upgrade my PC to a newer system.Still using my old PC.

So do you mean I need 2 processor system = no flash problems anymore?So its now more important than RAM?

Cool so maybe you can send me your "quad core system" via E-Mail Ted. :)

So my pagefile.sys is set to 768 MB.So in the system...etc I can see a startsize of 768 MB and a max size of 1406 MB and its set to Custom.So to what should I change it now?So my pagefile.sys keeps always 768 MB and getting not bigger etc.

Aha you have a dualcore Deep and also have the flash trouble!Sound not very promising if I buy a new system = same trouble as now.!?!So just for exsample,so you know maybe the filehost called "mediafire",so if I call any DL link of this host then it will also need a lot time til I can press the download button and all on this page is very slow so this host using just some commercial flash animations and also there I have this CPU trouble.So you can imagine if I call any other moddern homepage as [RTL or ARD etc] that there goes almost nothing for me so thats the main problem.Flash = system gets slow = much waiting time or browser says good bye.

greetz

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Mondo

What is the spec of your processor and how much RAM is installed?


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deepzero

So do you mean I need 2 processor system = no flash problems anymore?So its now more important than RAM?

 

nope, i still had it with my dual core. Lots of people do, the net is full of reports. Adobe doesnt care, for some reason.

 

Your mediafire trouble is probably realted to using an outdated browser. FF 2.0 still running there? ;)

 

Post your specs again, but from what i remember 20€ will buy you a better system. Invest 100-200 and save yourself more trouble...that's what it will boil down to. This is 2013.

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LCF-AT

@ Mondo

Intel III 864 Mhz | 512 MB RAM

@ deepzero

Yes the flash people seems not to be very friendly or helpfully. :slap: Found also a lot messages about that problem on the net + no feedback infos.

No deepzero as I said before so its no browser problem. :) So I have installed diffrent browsers also FF 16 and there I have the same trouble as with FF 2.Some flash = (RESULT) = some trash. :)

Ok lets say I buy a newer cheap system and what is if I then have again the same trouble with that flash trash? :) Then I will getting angry and have to visit my "flash" friends to show them where the hammer hangs. :) So its all very unsure.Of course I would like to have a faster system where I don't have to wait anymore etc but this flash problem makes all broken you know.Does nobody know any person of the "flash" fuzzys who can ask them to improve and fix this CPU problems?

greetz

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paul

I had noticed in older posts of yours you mentioned you can't watch flash videos but would have never imagined you have such an old computer. Honestly there is no way to "fix" this other than getting a more powerful system.
You will have no problem with flash with a newer system, my 7 year old desktop had a dual core processor and I don't recall having any issues with youtube videos or flash games.

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Nacho_dj

Is it not possible at least increase the RAM size? Most of old machines allow more RAM size than the original set up. You'd rather check the motherboard documentation to find more info about this.


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Teddy Rogers

Intel III 864 Mhz | 512 MB RAM

 

I don't know how you do it, I can't remember the last time I used a computer with a PIII inside of it! The only place I know where they are still used (and manufactured) are in legacy PLC hardware such as used by GE.

 

I would suggest not upgrading memory or anything in that machine, instead save the money to get a second hand machine. Even get a netbook off eBay and outputting to a larger monitor if you really have to! You can pick them up dirt cheap these days. At least then you will be using a machine that was made in the last decade, even an Atom CPU would be an upgrade and you can get a dual core 64bit machine at the same time!

 

Ted.

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GaBoR

Here is a cheap(60 Euro) used dual-core PC & the 8600gt videocard has hw flash video acceleration:


http://www.kalaydo.de/kleinanzeigen/tower-pcs/computer-zu-verkaufen/a/36528287/


This one is more expensive(100 Euro) but it has an LCD monitor included:


http://www.kalaydo.de/kleinanzeigen/tower-pcs/hp-compac-microtower-mit-monitor-und/a/36335635/


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LCF-AT

Hi,

thanks for your new answers.So I think I have no chance anymore to prevent a system upgrade although I don't really need a new system.Only to get the system working faster + flash stuff / internet surfing.Sound a little bit ridiculous or?Ok thanks again so far.

PS: Short question to make only a little test etc.So I found a youtube link of any short HD video which I can't watch normaly = not liquid and my CPU utilization gets til 99 % permanently.So its a HD video 1280x720.So maybe you can visit this video and check whether you can see the video liquid [video & sound = match 1:1] = 1A performance and in this case I wanna that you now check your CPU utilization in taskmanager if the video is playing.So if all these is working good for you etc then I wanna that you just post your CPU name GHZ etc and your RAM xy and your CPU utilization if the video is playing.So if you and the others do this then I have a little overview of diffrent CPUs and RAM which I need for me to find maybe the minimum requirement where I can look later on some system seller you know.So it would be very nice from you if you could do this little check for me.

Thanks

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deepzero

although I don't really need a new system

 

the 5+ threads we had so far on this issue beg to differ...;)

 

Video plays perfectly fine full-screen, 720p here. Dual-Core 2GB RAM. Go for it.

The average Smartphone beats your system.

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Nacho_dj

Not so bad results... tested on CPU PIII, RAM 512Mb, Windows98 Second edition, using firefox 2.0.0.20, the video can be played in a very good quality. Sometimes it seems there are minimal stops in the image, but sounds aren't interrupted at all.By the way, youtube warns that this video cannot be played in so old browser hehe, but it can.CheersNacho_dj

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GaBoR

Intel Celeron Dual-core G550 2.6 GHz, 4GB ram, AMD HD5570 videocard: cpu utilization between 10%-15% when played in a window, 5% when played in fullscreen. 


For Flash hardware video acceleration to work you need atleast a processor with an integrated GPU(like Intel socket 1155 processors, AMD FM1 or FM2(there there are some processors with GPU disabled) or having a motherboard(AMD 785G socket am2+, AMD 880G chipset socket am3/am3+) which has AMD HD4200, HD4250 gpu integrated.


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LCF-AT

Hi,

"Dual-Core 2GB RAM" - Ok,and how much GHZ do you need for this?Does it also play a role if I choose a OnBoard grafic card?The most cheap systems have OnBoard grafic.

"tested on CPU PIII, RAM 512Mb" - Ah ok so I think you have than more MHZ than me or? :) So for me the video does play very slow in browser and on computer = Sound is faster than the video.

"10%-15% when played in a window, 5% when played in fullscreen" - Sound very good!Maximum of 15 % only.

Summary: Ok so then I have only to look for any Dual-Core system [any processor right?] with a minimum of 2 Ghz + 2 or 4 GB RAM [xy] and the rest is not very important right?Ok so thanks again for the informations so far.

greetz

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Dreamer

overclocking cpu  can do job


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Teddy Rogers

What kind of a budget have you got?

Ted.

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paul

I believe one of the best choices for you is the AMD A4-3400, price should be around 40 euros. You can read more about the A4 series and the model specifications here .


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LCF-AT

Hi,

so round about +/- 200 € maybe so I will see what I can find around.

Ah ok so heard already form others that AMD is a good chioce [allround CPU] etc.I will keep this in my mind if I check the offers.Thanks again so far.

greetz

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Nacho_dj

Check also alternate.de site, I bough mine there from parts and it was not expensive. :)


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