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Is Everything Crackable?

Is everything crackable?  

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  1. 1. Can RCE crack anything/everything?

    • I can code uncrackable stuff myself
      24
    • Everything can be cracked
      297
    • Some stuff is uncrackable
      103


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lena151

I hate the thought that crackmes/programs can indeed be uncrackable though I believe in it. With the 99,9 % solution info that I gave away on the first one and the fact that I coded the last one in 2 days ... it simply is impossible that they don't get cracked. (Like said, ReverseMe#9 is an attempt to be uncrackable, I don't really believe in it).

Yes please, give it a go and restore my faith in RCE... :unsure:

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Angel-55

Lena :) , i have a stupid question but does the NAG show registered to : XXX when it's registered or another message ?

i a thing out of it but still trying for fun ^^ i'll leave the T.R.!.4.L.S for later ;) "Don't Give Up !" nice message

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lena151

If you are you talking about ReverseMe#2 (are you?), then no, the nags don't show that text.

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Blah

i didnt tell you all??

i cracked this way back...was rather easy i might add....HHHmmmm :rolleyes:

LOL :D

just kiddin..

i couldnt crack a c-64 game!!! lol

actually i hope to see some takers and see the results..would be fun... :D

cheers all

B :P

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Angel-55
If you are you talking about ReverseMe#2 (are you?), then no, the nags don't show that text.

Yeah i'am talking about that one, you mean the NAG disappeares ?!

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lena151

In the ReverseMe, the nags become the goodboys just to give reversing an extra path of attack as there are no nags at all in the real program...

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Fungus

Blah: hehe, not many people can crack a c-64 game ;) ok the easy ones, but the hard ones are just as difficult if not harder than stuff I've seen on pc so far.

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spiderhole

Lena - your particular program notwithstanding, the enormous volume of cracked programs out there - with many of these programs being released by well funded companies with large & talented programmer teams - suggests that most things can indeed be cracked. I won't say EVERYTHING because I think there's always room for an exception, but the point is that the program that can't be cracked IS the exception.

Look at Blu Ray and HD-DVD -- there was & is an ENORMOUS amount of $$$ at stake resting on the DRM keeping these things secure, and these next gen formats were supposed to address the shortcomings of DeCSS on current gen DVDs that the likes of AnyDVD makes such short work of....yet they were cracked in very short order.

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Baxter
"Can the skilled coder implement so many twists and turns in his program that it becomes so hard and difficult that it is never/ever defeatable?"

Absolutely!

This app has locked functions that no one has ever been able to crack or keygen.

You must have the correct name and serial numbers, so it will unscramble the associated program files which are crypted. No codes, no full features!

_http://www.astrograph.com/downloads/Win426Base.exe

Oh.. and for the record, REG details are available for this app - BUT they were carded.

4 years, 4 teams, 6 crackers, 3 keygenners - no one can unlock this app with their skills alone.

It HAD to be carded!

So yes, some coders do use smart tricks to stop crackers.. :P

Update Edit: Just for the noobs - do not think this is an opportunity to post links to apps as a veiled "crack request" either.

My link is for general interest and research only - as I said, REG details have been released for this app - so it is already done.

My comments and link are to demonstrate the app that has caused crackers so much angst over the years only.. :)

Edited by Baxter (see edit history)

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Blah
"Can the skilled coder implement so many twists and turns in his program that it becomes so hard and difficult that it is never/ever defeatable?"

Absolutely!

This app has locked functions that no one has ever been able to crack or keygen.

_http://www.astrograph.com/downloads/Win426Base.exe

Oh.. and for the record, REG details are available for this app - BUT they were carded.

4 teams, 6 crackers, 3 keygenners - no one can unlock this app with their skills alone.

It HAD to be carded!

So yes, some coders do use smart tricks to stop crackers.. :P

thats sum scary sounding stuff there...hehehe :P

"4 teams, 6 crackers, 3 keygenners - no one can unlock this app with their skills alone" :unsure:

what made that target so crazy hard???

cheers

B

Edited by Blah (see edit history)

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Vepergen

Implementation of serial registration routine, when only correct serials will decrypt app database, which app uses to generate reports. Any other approach to unlock this database leads app to generate scrambled data. :P So serials were carded, and then app fully unlocked/registered.

About that cracking anything - it's point of view. In some cases you need additional help, like f.e. working serials to decrypt ARM or ASPR secured sections or real dongle key to crack dongled app - without this you just simply can't crack that apps. :rolleyes:

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GEEK

Even i do believe there are appz which are simply uncrackable. Also it depends on many factors like time taken to crack and if it is worth cracking....With the protections becoming more and more complex most crackers will give up and move on to something easier if the target takes say a few months.

Also dont forget cryptography when properly implemented it can be a real pain.

my 2 cents

Regards

GEEK

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Apakekdah

i think, some nano and stolen code.

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Blah

just a question here..(hey thats all i got..hehe).has anybody cracked lena's thing-a-ma-gig???

or is it "uncrackable"???

just curious... :)

cheers

B

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Loki

Getting there (i think) :)

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antrobs

Looking forward to it..... :thumbsup:

I have some question to all concern:

(P.S Except on Lena's tut for a start) :D

What's the fastest way to learn cracking if there's any? :P

Just curious!

aNtRoBs

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Guest lost77

humanity could make any perfect n uncrackable system from the starting till now? nope..

so yea everything which human made is crackable..

again n again thanks to u lena for ur tutorials..and thanks for arteam too..n thanks to other revers engineers..for those tutorials.. have a great life people..

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mjanecki
Over at ARTeam, I made this poll but I'm also interested in your opinion here. So, the question is the following: I read recently that anything and everything is crackable, and this even within a "reasonable" (1 month) amount of time. Yeah, we all read already somewhere that "if it runs, it can be cracked" and more of the likes, but is this really true? Let's see what you think ...

BTW, I'm not questioning the theoretical question. Of course -theoretically- there is a way to circumvent any protection. The question is meant as "Can the skilled coder implement so many twists and turns in his program that it becomes so hard and difficult that it is never/ever defeatable?"

And I'm not talking about packers/protectors who are indeed always crackable because those need an automated way to pack/protect which can always be reconstructed.

So, if you haven't voted on ARTeam board, let's see what you think ...

Regards,

lena151.

PS I voted for #1

Everything and anything written by a man or woman can be cracked. The de-terming factors is time and effort

mjanecki

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Guest sabadn
Since when can I crack anything?

Thanks for the compliment, but even in SND there are so much better reverse enineers than me:

Ziggy, syk071c, MaRKuS, PakMan and to be honest all the others ;)

I

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Shaneyboy

In your own personal opinion what is the hardest copy protection there is to reverse engineer?

Thanks in advance for all who take the time to reply :)

Edited by Shaneyboy (see edit history)

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human

there are many threads like this already. also game or app protection.

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Loveless

One US military uses on their nuclear missle siloes...

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ginastera

Don't tell anyone, the launch code for the US nuclear missile arsenal is 12345 ....which is amazing, I've got the same combination on my luggage.

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Angel-55

lol :blink:

it might be EC..........grrrr :P

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