I have just tested my machine with W2000 OS, and these are the characteristics:
PIII 1Ghz
512 Mb RAM
W2000 sp4
There I have installed Virtual PC 2004, containing XP sp3 and W98 second edition, and both run fine. I admit performance is a little slow, but normally it allows any reversing task.
LCF-AT, if you want I perform any test on this VM, just let me know.
Best regards
Nacho_dj
VirtualBox Problems
Started by LCF-AT, Nov 10 2011 01:12 PM
26 replies to this topic
#22
Posted 15 November 2011 - 01:43 AM
Hi all,
so today I have download VMWare Player "VMware-player-3.0.0-197124.exe" in the hope that this will help me more than the other stuff which I had installed before.So I start installing and this time I get no CPU etc message like in version 4.0!So this older version works so far.Now it was installing 3.0 and after a while I get a message about Virtual PC SP1.....it must be uninstall it before contine VMWarePlayer installing!?!GREAT!I press OK lets uninstall VPC.....after a while......CRASH!GREAT!I reboot the trash.Install again.....now it works so far....after a while the blue bar is short before the end "two millimeter".....System hangs!Cant move the mouse anymore & buttons [light] too!What the f....!Ooohhhhhhh!!!Ok I must reboot the dump after waiting 15 minutes where nothing happend in this time.I see there are no icons created of VMWP anyway.I start VMWP and it starts,ok.Now I choose my old OS from Virtual PC and it takes a while but then it accept it and now I can start the OS.I am waiting a bit and then......unable to....kernel device bla bla vmx86 trash....whatever...did you reboot the system.....yes I did!Ok now I was sarching on the net and find tons of entrys with the same trouble.
Totaly crazy!So a normal user is thinking now.....hmmmmhm....big trouble since a longer time so I think the VM company has made a fixing patch for this issue or?NO of course there is no fix to get which can fix this stupid problem!Now I get a thick neck of course.
Installing = Trash
Solutions = Trash
De-Installing = Totaly Trash
So what the hell is going on here?
I have seen some solutions how to fix this problem like to start the software panel and change/remove VMWP so that then comes a repair box but 1. there is no VNWP in the software list and also no uninstaller to find.So I had to uninstall it with a uninstaller forcing tool now so a reinstalling was not possible so it always detect the VMWP on the system.I have not reboot my PC now so I dont know whether the uninstall was successful or not so I will see it next day.
Result = Big "O" M.F. TRASH high 10
Maybe I have tomorrow more luck but I dont think so.I think I can forget to get the VM installed correctly for me.Or?
@ Nacho_dj
Hhmmm,so what want you test?So the Virtual PC was working so far for me except the problems with debugging on XP OS + the crashes with strongOD every time + graphic video driver trouble 4 colors thing.Without this I could use it.
VBox was very slow and has no HWBP for me and VMWP does not install / work correctly.So I can do what I want I get always trouble with something with the VM apps.So what can help me now?So I just need a working VM + 1 OS [XP SP0 or1] so that I can test my files + unpacking files in VM too thats all.
So I heard there is a tool where you can pack a installed target in a package + all settings file etc so that you can install this pack on a other PC which is then the same like the installed before or somthing.Maybe someone know what I mean so I dont remember the app which can do this.Maybe someone can pack his VMWare Player [3.0 not higher] or Virtual PC and can send me the pack which I can install on my PC which maybe works then for me.You know something like this so I dont know whether it works then or not you know.No idea what I can do now to prevent or fix this trouble here.Just annoying.
PS: Virtual PC 2004?So I had installed VirtualPC2007Sp1.exe
greetz
so today I have download VMWare Player "VMware-player-3.0.0-197124.exe" in the hope that this will help me more than the other stuff which I had installed before.So I start installing and this time I get no CPU etc message like in version 4.0!So this older version works so far.Now it was installing 3.0 and after a while I get a message about Virtual PC SP1.....it must be uninstall it before contine VMWarePlayer installing!?!GREAT!I press OK lets uninstall VPC.....after a while......CRASH!GREAT!I reboot the trash.Install again.....now it works so far....after a while the blue bar is short before the end "two millimeter".....System hangs!Cant move the mouse anymore & buttons [light] too!What the f....!Ooohhhhhhh!!!Ok I must reboot the dump after waiting 15 minutes where nothing happend in this time.I see there are no icons created of VMWP anyway.I start VMWP and it starts,ok.Now I choose my old OS from Virtual PC and it takes a while but then it accept it and now I can start the OS.I am waiting a bit and then......unable to....kernel device bla bla vmx86 trash....whatever...did you reboot the system.....yes I did!Ok now I was sarching on the net and find tons of entrys with the same trouble.
Installing = Trash
Solutions = Trash
De-Installing = Totaly Trash
So what the hell is going on here?
I have seen some solutions how to fix this problem like to start the software panel and change/remove VMWP so that then comes a repair box but 1. there is no VNWP in the software list and also no uninstaller to find.So I had to uninstall it with a uninstaller forcing tool now so a reinstalling was not possible so it always detect the VMWP on the system.I have not reboot my PC now so I dont know whether the uninstall was successful or not so I will see it next day.
Result = Big "O" M.F. TRASH high 10
Maybe I have tomorrow more luck but I dont think so.I think I can forget to get the VM installed correctly for me.Or?
@ Nacho_dj
Hhmmm,so what want you test?So the Virtual PC was working so far for me except the problems with debugging on XP OS + the crashes with strongOD every time + graphic video driver trouble 4 colors thing.Without this I could use it.
VBox was very slow and has no HWBP for me and VMWP does not install / work correctly.So I can do what I want I get always trouble with something with the VM apps.So what can help me now?So I just need a working VM + 1 OS [XP SP0 or1] so that I can test my files + unpacking files in VM too thats all.
So I heard there is a tool where you can pack a installed target in a package + all settings file etc so that you can install this pack on a other PC which is then the same like the installed before or somthing.Maybe someone know what I mean so I dont remember the app which can do this.Maybe someone can pack his VMWare Player [3.0 not higher] or Virtual PC and can send me the pack which I can install on my PC which maybe works then for me.You know something like this so I dont know whether it works then or not you know.No idea what I can do now to prevent or fix this trouble here.Just annoying.
PS: Virtual PC 2004?So I had installed VirtualPC2007Sp1.exe
greetz
#23
Posted 15 November 2011 - 01:36 PM
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So I heard there is a tool where you can pack a installed target in a package + all settings file etc so that you can install this pack on a other PC which is then the same like the installed before or somthing.
the program you are talking about is thinstall. this won't solve your problem (having vmplayer running on a portable installation is a bad idea). It's like having a vm running inside a vm.
now please can you do what i suggested from the first post? install vmware workstation 6.5 or so (the same i use today). it won't detect your corrupted vmware player installation if i remember right. your problem is probably the bad install and unistall of the previous vm software and of vmplayer. if still you cannot install it, grab sysinternals and check for registry entries that vmware check for virtualpc so that you can delete them (although at this point i'd rather do a clean windows install).
I am sure this will solve your problem. if not an hardware upgrade is suggested.
if you cannot find an old workstation installer pm me. that's all i can do.
#24
Posted 15 November 2011 - 08:07 PM
Hi all,
so today I gave VMWare Player the last try.I have studdy the net and tried to install it again.
1. De-Installing not possible for me
2. Re-Installing also not possible [version detected] MSI trouble too
3. Using cleaner tool VMware_Install_Cleaner.exe
4. Install again til crash at the end again
5. Using CMD with command to get the NAG with remove / repair
6. Choose repair.Successfully fixed uninstall for software panel
7. Start fixed VMWPlayer and now I get ONLY the message
--------------
Error while powering on: Internal error.
--------------
8. OS will also not start now!
9. Snout full!
10. Try to uninstall VMWP for ever!
11. Try to uninstall from software panel - get message MSI etc uninstall not possible!GREAT!
12. Force uninstall from other tool
13. Restart
14. Press keyboard any key = mouse & keyboard hangs!Can just reboot again.
15. Keyboard driver problem "yellow !" resource error (39) etc
16. Mouse has also resource error only but still works
17. Search on the net for fixing way | normal de - re install of driver not possible
18. Find solution | Reason VMWare trash in registry
{4D36E96B-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
UpperFilters |
--------------------
kbdclass
vmkbd2 <---- BAD BOY | Delete it
19. DeInstall Keyboard driver,reinstall keydriver,restart
20. Keyboard & mouse have no problems anymore all fine
21. I HATE VMWARE TRASH!
Résumé: I will no more install this soft again.I had never so much trouble with any other tool in the past.This is really crazy also that you can find so much entrys on the net with the same problems.VMWare mission totaly failed.Now I have also a trashy registry | Services which I can clean manually or with regcleaner etc.Anyway,mabye the problem are just happend with win XP SPx only so I have seen other people they using win7 has not this trouble.
Ok so lets forget the VMWare stuff so I am done with this tool now.Will better go back to Virtual-PC and give this tool a try again [maybe] or I will forget the whole VM stuff.Brings just trouble for me.I am really speechless.
@ NullPointerException
Thanks for the offer but I think this will maybe also not work for me.
greetz
so today I gave VMWare Player the last try.I have studdy the net and tried to install it again.
1. De-Installing not possible for me
2. Re-Installing also not possible [version detected] MSI trouble too
3. Using cleaner tool VMware_Install_Cleaner.exe
4. Install again til crash at the end again
5. Using CMD with command to get the NAG with remove / repair
6. Choose repair.Successfully fixed uninstall for software panel
7. Start fixed VMWPlayer and now I get ONLY the message
--------------
Error while powering on: Internal error.
--------------
8. OS will also not start now!
9. Snout full!
10. Try to uninstall VMWP for ever!
11. Try to uninstall from software panel - get message MSI etc uninstall not possible!GREAT!
12. Force uninstall from other tool
13. Restart
14. Press keyboard any key = mouse & keyboard hangs!Can just reboot again.
15. Keyboard driver problem "yellow !" resource error (39) etc
16. Mouse has also resource error only but still works
17. Search on the net for fixing way | normal de - re install of driver not possible
18. Find solution | Reason VMWare trash in registry
{4D36E96B-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}
UpperFilters |
--------------------
kbdclass
vmkbd2 <---- BAD BOY | Delete it
19. DeInstall Keyboard driver,reinstall keydriver,restart
20. Keyboard & mouse have no problems anymore all fine
21. I HATE VMWARE TRASH!
Résumé: I will no more install this soft again.I had never so much trouble with any other tool in the past.This is really crazy also that you can find so much entrys on the net with the same problems.VMWare mission totaly failed.Now I have also a trashy registry | Services which I can clean manually or with regcleaner etc.Anyway,mabye the problem are just happend with win XP SPx only so I have seen other people they using win7 has not this trouble.
Ok so lets forget the VMWare stuff so I am done with this tool now.Will better go back to Virtual-PC and give this tool a try again [maybe] or I will forget the whole VM stuff.Brings just trouble for me.I am really speechless.
@ NullPointerException
Thanks for the offer but I think this will maybe also not work for me.
greetz
#25
Posted 15 November 2011 - 08:16 PM
Quote
9. Snout full!
Try VirtualPc2004, it`s designed for old systems and should support XP.
Besides that, spend 100-200 € on an upgrade and save yourself a lot of trouble...
Scientia potentia est.
#26
Posted 16 November 2011 - 09:06 PM
Hi,
ok I installed Virtual PC 2007 SP1 again.
Also installed a hotfix for this app.So now I can also use a other video adapter driver which supports 16 & 32 bit colors thats a good message but still I have 3 problems.
1. video display driver
So it works good so far but still I have the problem that the scrolling | moving of windows [stepping by the script window of Olly with "S"]etc is very slow and jerky and is not liquid you know what I mean?So how can I fix this?Must I install maybe directX or somehing?
2. Olly Terminates after a few commands etc.
So here I have the same problem as before.Sometimes it works normaly and sometimes not.If I test notepad.exe for exsample then I press F7 [push 70] and Olly terminates [no Olly closing etc].Or sometimes I press F8 and Olly runs and then I get a AV message of this command which Olly has execute!?!So this is very strange and I see no reason why this happend.Do you have any idea?
3. No StrongOD plugin is working with enabled kernelmode
So I can do what I want so the VM OS does always make a big crash.Testet diffrent version but with all I get the same bad result.Then I have test Phantom with loading driver and this works so the driver will loaded and is working.Hhmmm.
greetz
ok I installed Virtual PC 2007 SP1 again.
1. video display driver
So it works good so far but still I have the problem that the scrolling | moving of windows [stepping by the script window of Olly with "S"]etc is very slow and jerky and is not liquid you know what I mean?So how can I fix this?Must I install maybe directX or somehing?
2. Olly Terminates after a few commands etc.
So here I have the same problem as before.Sometimes it works normaly and sometimes not.If I test notepad.exe for exsample then I press F7 [push 70] and Olly terminates [no Olly closing etc].Or sometimes I press F8 and Olly runs and then I get a AV message of this command which Olly has execute!?!So this is very strange and I see no reason why this happend.Do you have any idea?
3. No StrongOD plugin is working with enabled kernelmode
So I can do what I want so the VM OS does always make a big crash.Testet diffrent version but with all I get the same bad result.Then I have test Phantom with loading driver and this works so the driver will loaded and is working.Hhmmm.
greetz
#27
Posted 19 November 2011 - 03:13 AM
Thinstall is really good. It's basically and inline loader that uses detours and compression efficiently to isolate software. It has some network update and version managing features too. The config and build process is simple too.
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